non payment locopanda casino 40,000$

BMWSTACK -- The comment came from me and not Loco Panda.

And to all of you guys who can't understand how come this was only discovered now, so you should know that this can happen :: All the different player accounts this user opened were discovered just RECENTLY and were instantly banned.
If reputation is at stake then please take a look at the facts: the casino paid someone for a long period of time when it should have just ban him/her to begin with.

As far as the comment about slow payments--pls understand that paying gradually to the USA, for US residents also protects the person legally, and is not just in benefit of the casino.

Double post, sorry

Tripple

Matt has given Zuga and I info that Kenny did have 3 accounts at the casino.

He did go against the terms and therefore was banned and will not be receiving any more winnings.

Kenny anything you would like to add?

i am curious as to how many "fraud investigators"  i would fire immediately if this was my business......this is easy stuff......

sounds like u ran out of cash flow,,,if not ligit u would not hav paid him anything..explains all your junk mail in the last couple days,,looking for new cash like a ponzi scheme

It is funny how some of you guys never question if it was a player who made a mistake or tried to defraud the casino but immediately jump into conclusion and assume it must be casinos fault.

The way i see it is they were paying this player and if they wanted to cheat them they would do it immediately and send no payments what so ever.

We can of course debate now as to why it took them so long to spot the fraud but then again some of you already made your decision without any facts long before casino explained what happened.

One is for certain some of the fraud department will get fired. But this is a hard lesson that locopanda will hopefully learn.

whether they pay in small(er) amounts ( which I agree definitely has to be improved ) really is not an issue here nor related to this case.

From what I read on this and other boards is that they do pay. We can argue all day ( and mostly we will agree ) that certain things have to be done better, but again it is not relevant to this case specifically.

What I mind is that some members here immediately side with a player without having sufficient facts. And if a casino provides a decent explanation then it is immediately considered as  BS or some stalling tactic or even problem with payments, implying they must be out to scam players.

If you are expecting them to post here how they discovered the fraud then I wouldn't be holding my breath. No operator will divulge such information as it would only show fraudsters what they have done wrong and help them be smarter and harder to catch next time they try to defraud any casino.

With all this said I do too hope this person will come back. Very curious to hear what they have to say now, but there is no way in hell they would admit to any "irregularities".

honestly, i dont trust any RTG casino's. Most of them are rogue. couple years ago i won $2000 and the very next day they closed my account. I had a multiple accounts they said!
had an account at several RTG casinos and none of them ever paid me.

RTG...Real Trash Goons

It's a shame that they are still operating.
Too many people are scammed by them. Poor people!
US is now limited? that's one good news, probably, lots people are complaining and the goverment did something about it?
Thumbs up if that's what happend.

RTG...is a NO!

@ Nirvana-- I always listen to both sides and do take the casinos side quite a bit , because over 50% of problems are typically fraudulent player.  This situation is just weird paying out 30k.  They know how to look for multiple accounts and just cant believe its possible to screw that up in the beginning.

RTG has the market on the US and yes it seems like they let anyone open a casino.  If they just had some regulation for their operators RTG could not only be huge in the US, but worldwide. Unfortunately the greed will be the death of them.  If US ever makes online legal RTG will be out of business because the Micro's and reputable organizations will get all the business.


KENNY where are you?  You got caught and nothing more to say?

RTG is partially to be blamed for giving their license to pretty much everyone who has money to pay for it. However to put all RTG casinos into the same basket is also not fair IMHO.

there is quite few decent RTGs out there.

Hi,

I totally reject the casino claim of multi accounts. If I have multi account why only 3? and why with a casino that is paying so so slowly?

Not only that, locopanda casino ignored my emails and only this forum made them expose their false claim regarding the non payment.

What are this 2 or 3 accounts that are linked to my account? There are none !

If you think there are – please expose their full details right here: names, address etc.
I'm affraid these account are either non-exist, or made up by the casino or are actually genuine players.

locopanda casino is a big fraud. that what I can say..

kenny.

What took you so long to come comment?

Alright great, provide him the proof Loco.  Not sure if you will post it right in the forum, but at least get Kenny the proof.

We were discussing this matter 3 weeks ago. I cannot imagine a legit complaint by a person who is supposedly owed a significant amount of money which will not be logged in 24/7 in the look for a resolution.

The accounts were crossed together and verified as a match to a single, unique user; nothing related to this incident will be published in public.

If you have anything to add you should contact the casino directly.

Matt.

matt and casino locopanda, you are somethings.

first you accuse me for not posting here quickly enough (sorry, i'm not working for you)
then you say i should contact the casino directly (oooppppsss, they have been ignoring my emails for the past few weeks)
and finally you just say I have many accounts but show no proof of that and you expect everyone just to take your word for it?

I still say casino locopanda is roughed. you think otherwise? please prove it.

somebody is definately full of shit on this one......WHO??

hi everyone and thanks for your support.

it seems gamblinggrumbles is also convinced that locopanda casino is a fraud.
and thanks for steve russo for his effort on this...

xxx http://www.gamblinggrumbles.com/Reports/Loco-Panda-Casino_An-answer-which-is-not-an-answer

It really would seem as if Matt is not really interested in helping resolve this issue.  Now he is the one who is refusing the talk about it.
Which tells me 1 of 2 things.
1) He's being forced to exclaim multiple accounts, and therefore he doesn't have any real proof.  Nor does he wish to disclose how such a thing was found out.
2) There is a real fraud going on, yet if there was real fraud.  Why would the poster be so willing to have his case posted out in open.

On either note, I have a hard time believing that it has taken a year and a half to find this extra account.

Now if the player did go and open up another account to win more, because they had winnings left in the other one.  Just so they didn't have to reverse.  I guess I could believe that concept, but still at that point that would be something that the player would have to disclose not the rep.

Yet also the rep accused the player of not being around to discuss the issue and press for an answer.  Yet now that the player is pressing for an answer, the rep seems to be non existent to respond.  So now it would seem as if the shoe is on the other foot.

I'm really going to side with the player on this one and assume that Loco Panda has no real intention on making good on someone's winnings.

For 2 reasons, that 1 at least Kenny is actively pursuing this case, while the casino is giving a talk to the hand gesture.
2 I have a friend who won off of there casino lately, and it took quite a bit of teeth pulling just to get paid a small amount of $500.

So I would believe there are financial issues going on.

So unless if someone wants to provide real proof that was multi-accounting going on, mainly because the user has allowed for it to be posted.  I would assume that the casino in this case is lying.

Agree with Cheetah, this is what I have been saying the whole time. Looks like rep is from affiliate group.  I also pointed out that it seems the rep always has an attitude, which I have pointed out previously.  I have no clue why people were thanking him when he tried to discredit Kenny unprofessionally in a previous post. 

I did see the complaint filed on the other site previous to Kenny posting he filed a complaint elsewhere.  It looks like they actually went to the casino, and not an affiliate, and ended up getting the run around, not to mention the group does a good job on complaints, so I take their findings as legitimate.

Im also still of the opinion that the casino wouldn't have paid out the 31k without trying to find every excuse possible.  They probably stopped because it was  a combo of Kenny not depositing anymore along with their cashflow.  Not sure how their cashflow is bad anyways with the way they screw players by taking forever to pay in small amounts.

all I hear are the assumptions and ungrounded accusations. You guys already made up your minds long before representative even replied.

This case is clear to me. Casino rep. made a reply and explained what happened. If you are expecting them to come back here again and divulge how they caught Kenny, then you will be waiting for a long time. Why would they disclose such details and allow Kenny here or any other potential fraudsters to get smarter and avoid being caught next time?

Your argument is that because they paid him the majority of funds now they must be cheating him and making up the fraud, because they are out of funds. That makes absolutely NO sense.

To me the fact that they paid 3/4 of his winnings is showing that they are not in the scam players biz. Why would they pay that kind of money if they were to scam him in the first place? They would have made up multiple accts story long time ago and not now.

Ill repeat what I said earlier, some of you can't wait to side with any player no matter what.

nirvana.....you are drinking the KOOLAID too much

I guess if he refuses to talk about here, we could drag it into his thread like he wants.  Yet I highly doubt we'd get any better answers from the point forward anyways.
I'm getting that's where the attitude came from the beginning.  This wasn't posted in the appropriate section so now there having to go out of there way to field complaints.  Which I guess I"m sure being part of multiple forums and dealing with affiliates can be a stressful job.
Yet if someone starts a thread and wants casino input, he should have left the mud slinging at the door versus start out right in full force.  That's what makes me think Matt isn't being very helpful in this case.  He was upset from the beginning that the poster didn't make the post his in little thread.

lol