Same Sex Marriages

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Poll - Do you think same sex marriages should be legal?

  • yes
    63.64% (7)
  • no
    36.36% (4)
  • don't care one way or the other
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Total Members Voted: 11
  • Hi Members,

    When we fall in love…..the next step taken is marriage. But is there exceptions to this rule? Is it wrong to be allowed to marry someone of the same gender?

    From a religioius point of view many feel it is against the natural order of what God intended. Others feel that if God did not intend to have same sex marriages that there would be no gays in the first place.

    I think that being gay is not a choice one makes, rather something that we are born with. If this is the case, should same sex marriages be allowed in every state?

    There is a lot of pros and cons on this issue. What is your stance on it?

    Lips
  • Love is love straight or gay whats a bit of paper anyway

  • I suspect, that in 5 years, the USA will permit such in every state.

    No matter (It seems) what the voters will say.

    So much for majority opinion.

  • Who am I to judge anyone else...especially when it comes to questions about love?
    In Sweden it is already allowed and I don't have any problems with that. Many of my friends are gay and they are as wonderful as anyone else. If they are married they are protected by the law if anything happened just as anyone else.
    Just my opinion ::)

  • Talking about marriages, just got married justoday and I'm happy,and in the other hand i live my life the way i want and let other people live they way they want, sounds fair?

  • I guess I will have to be the Medieval Man here.  I feel the institution of marraige should be for a man and woman.  Though, I certainly don't believe people who love each other, regarless, should have civil rights denied them, however. 

  • You know, here in the US there is a talkshow that comes on everyday with an extremely funny comedian who hosts the show.She is constantly giving gifts to audience members and calling home viewers and giving away prizes for them and the fund raisers and donations she gives(and gets other celebrities and big companies to shell out the bucks too)to foundations and charities(like this month,October is cancer awareness month and if you visit [ellen.warnerbros.com] you could donate to breast cancer awareness)....my point is, she is Ellen DeGeneres.Her and Portia deRossi were married in Aug of 2008.You should be with who you want to be with,you never know...a soul is a soul (they could have been the opposite sex in a previous life,a soul lives on)and there is nothing anyone should do to prevent that,and if they want it on paper that is their choice , it shouldn't be anyone Else's decision.


  • Talking about marriages, just got married justoday and I'm happy,and in the other hand i live my life the way i want and let other people live they way they want, sounds fair?


    Posada..you just got married TODAY?? WOW!!  Last time I talked to you, you were single!!  Congrats guy!! smiley
  • There goes our chances Nal of snaring Posada!!! All our hopes and dreams out the window.........wink!

    I think his wedding bells should be included in the LCB story somewhere. After all if i remember correctly he was serenading in the casino!!!

    Lips
  • I don't think ANY of us has the right 2 pass judgment on others; we CERTAINLY have no business dictating what is the 'right way' or 'wrong way' 2 do something.  I'm torn on this issue, however.  Sexual orientation is a deeply private matter, and while I do have friends that are homosexual, I don't agree with those that go around advertising their orientation.  I don't walk around w/ 'Hey, I'm heterosexual' stamped on my shirt so I don't understand the need 2 publicize your orientation if you're gay.  Again, it is a DEEPLY private/ personal issue.  Marriage?  Eh, why the hell not?  Who am I 2 say they cannot? 
    By the way..... I am a newly-wed, as well smiley  2day is our 3 week anniversary wink

  • Congrats Tinman on your wedded Bliss!!!! With all the newlyweds lately we may have to post a separate thread!!!

    May you spend all your days together!!!

    Lips
  • I think the reality is very good people can differ on this topic.  And certainly there are zealots on both sides.

  • Love is love...........no matter what 2 people they are. If it is outlawed who really cares.......its just a piece of paper.

    Of course certain privileges are denied as a result. Such as taxes which is a major issue for couples.

    I respect peoples opinions and understand their belief systems on both sides of the fence. But unless a higher power much bigger than you and i comes down and says its wrong.......i say no one should be denied


    Lips

  • There goes our chances Nal of snaring Posada!!! All our hopes and dreams out the window.........wink!

    I think his wedding bells should be included in the LCB story somewhere. After all if i remember correctly he was serenading in the casino!!!

    Lips


    ya...i think he started out wanted to have a threesome, then ended up wanted to play texas hold em...i knew something was up with him, i thought he was losing it smiley
  • I wasn't going to say anything about this topic, because first off who I do or do not sleep with is no ones freaken business.

    I can honestly say I have never been a big fan of marriage, to either men or woman, but sometimes it is the only way.

    I don't go around talking about my sex life in public, I think its private too.

    I do not push my beliefs on other people, and I don't expect them to do it to me, whether it be sex, religion, or what kind of food to eat.

    There are some things you guys don't take into consideration here, which you probably wouldn't, because you think this is a sexual issue.   It isn't about sex at all.  No one needs your help in that department.

    It is the legal issues where there is concern.  It isn't just taxes as Lips stated, but as in my case, I had to watch my significant other slowly die, while the hospitols fight with me telling me I am not allowed in the room because I am not related...over and over and over.

    Then when she does die, I basically do not exist in the eyes of the law.  The insurance company will not accept me as family, although we have been living as a family for many years with children and a grandchild.
    So I lost the person that I loved and my house and my family because the law says so.
    Well, in New England where I live the laws have changed, but it is too late now for me.

  • We can be for or against gays...but we can't influence the situation! I mean if the society or church is against gays will never become straight, it's their nature! So it's just the fact of our reality! People choose each other (same or opposite sex), fall in love...and marriage is just the continuation of relationship! So I can say that I'm for the legacy!!

  • Nal,

    I could not agree with you more. I am glad you decided to point these factors out. Even if it enlightens one person with understanding. Voices should be heard. It is these kinds of voices that can encourage change in our society's way of thinking.

    Opinions are like a**holes.......everyone has one. But intelligent opinions such as yours brings awareness.

    Thanks for sharing.

    Lips
  • Nal, I am sorry you had to experience such. I have heard of many cases like this and that has caused a slow but steady change in such.

    Laws now standing have slowed and in some cases stopped this foolishness, but it still (I have heard) continues. There's no going back of course, but what this has done is started a change of laws for those forthcoming to benefit from.

    Additional note:

    Just opened my election ballot and here's something interesting:

    Referendum Measure 71 (This being for the State of Washington)

    The legislature passed Engrossed Second Substutute Senate Bill 5688 concerning rights and responsibilties of state-registered domestic partners and voters filed a sufficent referendum petition on this bill. This bill would expand the rights, responibilties and obligations accorded state-registered same-sex and senior domestic partners to be equivelent to those of married spouses, except that a domestic partnership is not a marriage.


  • Congrats Tinman on your wedded Bliss!!!! With all the newlyweds lately we may have to post a separate thread!!!

    May you spend all your days together!!!

    Lips



    How very sweet!! smiley  Thank u 4 your kind words wink

  • I wasn't going to say anything about this topic, because first off who I do or do not sleep with is no ones freaken business.

    I can honestly say I have never been a big fan of marriage, to either men or woman, but sometimes it is the only way.

    I don't go around talking about my sex life in public, I think its private too.

    I do not push my beliefs on other people, and I don't expect them to do it to me, whether it be sex, religion, or what kind of food to eat.

    There are some things you guys don't take into consideration here, which you probably wouldn't, because you think this is a sexual issue.  It isn't about sex at all.  No one needs your help in that department.

    It is the legal issues where there is concern.  It isn't just taxes as Lips stated, but as in my case, I had to watch my significant other slowly die, while the hospitols fight with me telling me I am not allowed in the room because I am not related...over and over and over.

    Then when she does die, I basically do not exist in the eyes of the law.  The insurance company will not accept me as family, although we have been living as a family for many years with children and a grandchild.
    So I lost the person that I loved and my house and my family because the law says so.
    Well, in New England where I live the laws have changed, but it is too late now for me.



    I am truly sorry 4 what u went thru; I hope the tide is turning so that others don't have 2 suffer the same pain & heartache. Thank u 4 sharing.


  • I wasn't going to say anything about this topic, because first off who I do or do not sleep with is no ones freaken business.

    I can honestly say I have never been a big fan of marriage, to either men or woman, but sometimes it is the only way.

    I don't go around talking about my sex life in public, I think its private too.

    I do not push my beliefs on other people, and I don't expect them to do it to me, whether it be sex, religion, or what kind of food to eat.

    There are some things you guys don't take into consideration here, which you probably wouldn't, because you think this is a sexual issue.  It isn't about sex at all.  No one needs your help in that department.

    It is the legal issues where there is concern.  It isn't just taxes as Lips stated, but as in my case, I had to watch my significant other slowly die, while the hospitols fight with me telling me I am not allowed in the room because I am not related...over and over and over.

    Then when she does die, I basically do not exist in the eyes of the law.  The insurance company will not accept me as family, although we have been living as a family for many years with children and a grandchild.
    So I lost the person that I loved and my house and my family because the law says so.
    Well, in New England where I live the laws have changed, but it is too late now for me.



    I am truly sorry 4 what u went thru; I hope the tide is turning so that others don't have 2 suffer the same pain & heartache. Thank u 4 sharing.


    thank-you tinman fan...that means a lot
    i was wishing i didn't say anything today...
  • Nalgenie:  Thanks for sharing that story with us.  I have always asserted that while people really vary on the topic of homosexuality, people's civil rights should not be denied them.  Sadly, there are so many stories when one's S.O. could not "be there" for them in some of life's tragic moments.  Thanks for taking the risk and reminding us this is important.


  • Nalgenie:  Thanks for sharing that story with us.  I have always asserted that while people really vary on the topic of homosexuality, people's civil rights should not be denied them.  Sadly, there are so many stories when one's S.O. could not "be there" for them in some of life's tragic moments.  Thanks for taking the risk and reminding us this is important.
  • The issue was same sex marriage, not homosexuality.
    I am not homosexual.  My civil rights should be the same
    whether I want to marry a man or a woman.


  • The issue was same sex marriage, not homosexuality.
    I am not homosexual.  My civil rights should be the same
    whether I want to marry a man or a woman.


    So true; & that's really the crux of the issue I think. Civil rights r civil rights, regardless of who 1 chooses 2 spend their life with.  GOOD POINT smiley
  • life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness  mmmmmmmmmsound familar ooops that only if your'e straight I DON"T THINK SOOOO our government should not control who we choose to live with or be happy with and that's the bottom line!!! Those of you who live in the states shouldn't even be on this site but you are why because you don't believe everything our government says  is right for you think about that i think the word FREEDOM is were it's at

  • I support gay couples but not the marriage.

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